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Running The Numbers – Amazon ($AMZN) at all time high

Tuesday, December 1st, 2009

On-line retailer Amazon.com ($AMZN) closed yesterday at an all time high of US$135.91. $AMZN is up 218% in the last 12 months – better than Apple ($AAPL) at 122%, Google ($GOOG) at 88% or the broad NASDAQ at 41% [visual]. Time to have a look at a superstar performance.

Valuecruncher Interactive Analysts Report For Amazon ($AMZN)

We have the comparator group set as Wal-Mart ($WMT), Google ($GOOG), eBay ($EBAY) and Yahoo ($YHOO). You can change these peer companies on the site. For example you could add:

  1. Overstocked.com ($OSTK)Interactive Analyst Report For $OSTK
  2. Barnes & Noble ($BKS)Interactive Analyst Report For $BKS
  3. Netflix ($NFLX)Interactive Analyst Report For $NFLX

So what do we think?

Discounted Cash Flow Valuation

We have completed a discounted cash flow valuation using our interactive tools (there is a “discounted cash flow analysis” link just under the company name on the company page). We have populated our model with a mixture of consensus analyst estimates and Valuecruncher estimates. Our analysis produces a valuation of US$99.04 for $AMZN – 27.1% below the current share price. Using a DCF calculation we see $AMZN overvalued. But how about $AMZN compared to a peer group?

Comparison Analysis

I kept the first three peer group companies as $WMT, $GOOG, $EBAY and changed $YHOO to $BKS.  I am going to look at two of the metrics we use at Valuecruncher – Enterprise Value (EV)/Revenue and EV/EBITDA. Enterprise Value (EV) is simply market capitalization plus net debt [long-term borrowings less cash]. We use EV to capture the impact of debt and cash on a company’s balance sheet – market capitalization doesn’t capture different capital structures when comparing companies.

EV/Revenue shows how a dollar or revenues is being valued by the market against the comparator set. On an EV/Revenue basis $AMZN is trading at 2.8x ($AMZN is being valued at 2.8x last year’s revenues). This compares to $WMT at 0.6x, $GOOG at 7.8x, $EBAY at 3.4x and $BKS at 0.2x. $AMZN’s profit margins (at the EBITDA line) were 6.2% of revenues last year.  A dollar of $AMZN revenues is being valued more than 4.5 times a dollar of $WMT revenues – despite that dollar of revenues producing less profit (on an EBITDA basis) than the $WMT revenues.  A dollar of $AMZN revenues is being valued just less (15%) than a dollar of $EBAY revenues – but $EBAY produces over five times the profit (on an EBITDA basis) on each dollar of revenues as $AMZN does ($AMZN EBITDA margin 6.2% vs 33.3% for $EBAY).  Wow – based on previous performance $AMZN is trading a a massive premium.

Now $AMZN does have a range of additional services like their AWS offering that big future growth are expected from. But that is some significant future growth that is being valued in.

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EV/EBITDA shows how a dollar of profit (measured in as Earnings Before Interest Taxes Depreciation and Amortization) is being valued by the market against the comparator set. On an EV/EBITDA basis $AMZN is trading at 47.0x ($AMZN is being valued at47.0x last year’s profit at the EBITDA line). A dollar of $AMZN EBITDA is worth more than double a dollar of $GOOG EBITDA ($GOOG has EBITDA margins of 37.3% vs $AMZN’s 6.2%).  $GOOG makes over 6 times the profit on each dollar of revenue that $AMZN does – but each dollar $AMZN’s profits are worth over double the comparable $GOOG profits.

This appears crazy.

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Summary

Based on our DCF valuation – $AMZN looks significantly overvalued. Looking at some comparators – the market is valuing $AMZN very highly compared to some peers. We believe if you are investing in $AMZN at the current price – you are paying a full price which includes significant future growth.  We like $AMZN as a company – but not at these valuation levels.

Disclosure: no positions.



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Running The Numbers – Apple ($AAPL). Trading at 7.0x Last Years Free Cash Flow. That’s cheap.

Monday, December 8th, 2008

At Valuecruncher we have looked at Apple ($AAPL) twice over the last six-months. In June with the $AAPL share price at US$186.10 we produced a valuation of US$146.70. Then in September with the $AAPL share price at US$131.05 we had a valuation of US$163.98. We are now in early-December and $AAPL has continued to head south – with the market generally. $AAPL is now trading at US$94.00 – just over half the price we first looked at in June. We felt it was time to revisit the valuation of $AAPL from an intrinsic value perspective – and most importantly the assumptions that we are using. We have also completed some high-level comparator analysis looking at the current price of $AAPL against some broad peers using a range of metrics.

Valuecruncher valuation model of $AAPL with interactive assumptions

Valuecruncher produces a valuation of US$109.55 for $AAPL. This is a current valuation (an estimate of intrinsic value using a discounted cash flow model) not a target price. This valuation is 16.5% above the current share price of US$94.00.

Assumptions

  • Revenue: Reuters aggregates 29 analysts covering $AAPL and the mean estimate of 2009 revenues is US$40.6 billion. For our analysis we have used US$36.5 billion in 2009, US$43.5 billion in 2010 and US$49.0 billion in 2011.
  • Profitability: We have used an EBITDA margin of 19.0% to 2011. Reuters has $AAPL‘s EBITD margin at 20.8% last year and an average of 16.8% over the last five-years.
  • Capital Expenditure: We have assumed capital expenditures of US$1.15 billion per annum moving forward.
  • Discount Rate: 11.0%. In our June valuation we used a discount rate of 11.0% but dropped that to 10.0% in September. We believe 11.0% is a reasonable assumption in the current market conditions.
  • Terminal Growth Rate: 4.0%. In our assumptions we have 2010/11 revenue growth at 12.6% – we have assumed that growth eventually slows to a 3.0% long-term stable growth rate.

Our analysis incorporates the cash on the $AAPL balance sheet – Valuecruncher calculates a net debt number.

Comparator Analysis

Comparator analysis (sometimes called comparison company analysis) is a relative valuation approach. At Valuecruncher we have previously looked at comparator analysis.  For $AAPL we looked at a range of broad peers.  We calculated enterprise values – market capitalisation plus net debt (long-term borrowings less cash).  Then we measured a range of metrics against the enterprise value for $AAPL and the peer set.

We have used the last financial year (LFY) as the base set of metrics.  Of the peer group $EBAY and $YHOO had rough LFY performance.  The other numbers are interesting.  The one that stands out a mile to us however is that $AAPL is currently trading at 7.0x last years free cash flow (FCF).  Remove the cash and you can have the business for 7.0x last years FCF – no growth assumed.  Wow – that looks cheap.

Using our valuation of US$109.55 that gives a EV/FCF multiple of 8.7x.  That is still pretty resonable compared to the peer set.

Play with our assumptions – what does your analysis say?

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Running The Numbers – Amazon ($AMZN) still looks expensive

Friday, September 26th, 2008

As recently as 11 August 2008 $AMZN was trading at US$88.09.  With $AMZN now trading around the US$70 mark – does this represent a good opportunity to buy?  We decided to look at the underlying numbers for $AMZN using the Valuecruncher on-line valuation model to see what we think about the current share price.

Valuecruncher valuation model of $AMZN with interactive assumptions

Valuecruncher produces a valuation of US$62.65 for $AMZN.  This is a current valuation not a target price.  This valuation is 10% below the current share price of US$69.96.

Assumptions

Our assumptions are revenues of US$19.5 billion in 2008 growing to US$30.5 billion in 2010. We have used an EBITDA margin of 7% in 2008 increasing to 8% in 2010. We used a terminal growth rate of 5%. We used a terminal capital expenditure number of US$375 million. We have used a WACC (discount rate) of 10.5%.  All of these assumptions can be amended in the Valuecruncher on-line valuation model to adjust the valuation.

Our analysis incorporates the cash and debt on the $AMZN balance sheet – Valuecruncher calculates a net debt number.

Based on our analysis the current share price looks expensive.  We recognise that $AMZN has a range of potentially valuable growth options (especially their Web Services platform). Currently it is very difficult to determine a value of these growth options – we have made a broad attempt with our growth projections and terminal growth rate. However, it appears that these options are being valued into the current share price at a level beyond what we are projecting.  Play with our assumptions – what does your analysis say?

Disclosure: None.

Valuecruncher has a database of over 1,000 companies on major international exchanges. You can explore, create and share valuations for any of these companies.

 

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Is Amazon.com (AMZN) really worth over US$70 a share?

Monday, July 7th, 2008

At Valuecruncher we are keen watchers of Amazon.com (AMZN). As The Economist magazine pointed out last month – of the three pre-2000 internet giants (eBay and Yahoo are the others) it is AMZN that is currently thriving. We decided to put AMZN through the Valuecruncher on-line valuation tool.

AMZN Valuation

Our assumptions of revenues for the next three years are US$19.5 billion in 2008 increasing to US$29.5 billion in 2010. We have projected EBITDA margins increasing from 7% in 2008 to 8% in 2010.

We have used a terminal growth rate of 5%. Our view is that AMZN’s growth beyond 2010 will slow – but there is a distance to go yet. Our numbers project 2009 to 2010 revenue growth of 23%. This assumption has a significant impact on the valuation. If you believe AMZN has better future prospects – this will positively impact the valuation.

We have used a WACC (discount rate) of 10.5%. The WACC (discount rate) has a material impact on a discounted cash flow valuation (as does the terminal growth rate).

We used a terminal capital expenditure number of US$350 million. In our opinion capital expenditure should stabilize around this number.

AMZN Valuation

Our analysis incorporates the cash and debt on the AMZN balance sheet – Valuecruncher calculates a net debt number.

Our analysis gives a valuation of US$59.00 which is 19.5% below the current share price of US$72.00.

Our valuation incorporates a projection of growth for AMZN in the future. We recognise that AMZN has a range of potentially valuable growth options (especially their Web Services platform). Currently it is very difficult to determine the precise value of these growth options – we have made a broad attempt with our growth projections. However, it appears that these options are being factored into the current share price at a level beyond what we are projecting.

Based on our analysis, AMZN shares look expensive. Play with our assumptions – what does your analysis say?

Valuecruncher has a database of over 1,000 companies on major international exchanges. You can explore, create and share valuations for any of these companies.

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